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On Tuesday 18 May 2010, Tom H wrote:
>On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>> On Monday 17 May 2010, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>On 05/17/2010 02:12 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>> Clarify here: I can do all that as the user.  What I can't do, until
>>>> somebody decides to fix mkinitrd, is to run it as the user.  That is my
>>>> specific bitch.  And I think its perfectly valid.  mkinitrd simply will
>>>> not run for anybody but root.
>>>
>>>And this is a bad thing?  I, for one, don't want some low-level user
>>>installing a kernel on my machines.  I don't want them installing
>>>ANYTHING that's global.
>>
>> Repeat after me Rick:  "I am the only user of this machine". And that
>> will likely continue until such time as I fall over for the last time.
>
>Even if your use-case encompassed 100% of fedora users, there wouldn't
>be any reason for violating the principle of least/minimal privilege
>and giving a non-root user unnecessary rights. It is up to you to
>modify your settings to allow one or more users to perform a command
>without being root.
>
>>>When you get to the point where you're installing something that will
>>>affect all the users on the machine or the operation of the machine
>>>itself, only an administrator (e.g. "root") should be permitted to do
>>>so.  This is the whole point of system security and tools such as "su"
>>>and "sudo".
>>
>> I am moderately aware that rpms _should_ be installed as root, however
>> this machine has mdv-2010-x64 on it at the moment, and its software
>> updater has, in the last 6 weeks, probably updated 2Gb of software on
>> this machine without even asking me for my user passwd. OTOH, I have had
>> to use root to install another 2 or 3G of stuff.
>
>"Mandriva does it" isn't a good enough reason to allow a non-root user
>to install software. Mandriva has probably adopted a model similar to
>the one that was adopted and quickly dumped by F12, IIRC.
>
Entirely possible.  It has not, that I am aware of, caused a problem, yet...

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