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On 03/01/2010 03:24 PM, Andrew Junev wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I kindly ask for your support. On my MythTV frontend-only machine, I
> had to replace the motherboard. The old motherboard was an ASUS P5KR
> (Intel P35 chipset), and the newly installed motherboard is an MSI
> P43T-C51 (Intel P43 chipset). The old MB wasn't faulty - I just had
> to urgently use it in another machine.
> Everything else in this system remained basically the same - CPU,
> Video, etc. My video adapter is NVidia 8600GT made by ASUS (don't
> remember the model exactly). I am using proprietary NVidia driver from
> rpmfusion.
> 
> With the new MSI MB, the system just hangs when booting into graphical
> mode (runlevel 5), and there seem to be no errors in /var/log/messages,
> dmesg or in Xorg.log.
> If booted in runlevel 3 (text mode), the system seem to work, but
> there are several kernel oopses coming right after boot:
> 
> 2010-03-01T22:19:06.175302+03:00 frontend1 abrt: Kerneloops: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt
> 2010-03-01T22:19:06.175409+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Directory 'kerneloops-1267471146-1' creation detected
> 2010-03-01T22:19:10.113246+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification
> 2010-03-01T22:19:10.119410+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: New crash /var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471146-1, processing
> 2010-03-01T22:19:10.138685+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Registered Action plugin 'RunApp'
> 2010-03-01T22:19:10.138735+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471146-1','test x"`cat component`" = x"xorg-x11-server-Xorg" && cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .')
> 2010-03-01T22:21:06.111275+03:00 frontend1 abrt: Kerneloops: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt
> 2010-03-01T22:21:06.111358+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Directory 'kerneloops-1267471266-1' creation detected
> 2010-03-01T22:21:06.175171+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification
> 2010-03-01T22:21:06.179860+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: New crash /var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471266-1, processing
> 2010-03-01T22:21:06.179881+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471266-1','test x"`cat component`" = x"xorg-x11-server-Xorg" && cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .')
> 2010-03-01T22:23:06.112950+03:00 frontend1 abrt: Kerneloops: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt
> 2010-03-01T22:23:06.113047+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Directory 'kerneloops-1267471386-1' creation detected
> 2010-03-01T22:23:06.176437+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification
> 2010-03-01T22:23:06.181005+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: New crash /var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471386-1, processing
> 2010-03-01T22:23:06.181066+03:00 frontend1 abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1267471386-1','test x"`cat component`" = x"xorg-x11-server-Xorg" && cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .')
> 
> 
> 
> If I do an 'init 5' while I'm in runlevel 3, I can see Xorg starting
> and occupying all of the CPU resources (so that my PC doesn't respond
> to keyboard at all, and remote SSH sessions are also interrupted).
> Again, I don't see any obvious error messages in the logs when the
> system stops responding...

Have you rebuilt your initrd images?  They possibly contain some drivers
that your old MB needed and your new MB needs different?  The easist way
is to probably do a "yum reinstall kernel" when you are certain that the
loaded modules you are using are correct for your system.

Do this from "init 3" mode.  Then debug what's wrong with your graphical
setup and the new MB before trying to make "init 5" your default boot
mode again.

I've made more drastic motherboard changes in the past, without seeing
this (i586->i686).  But sometimes, all it takes is a chipset change to
really screw things up.  B^)

> I made a 'yum update', getting all the packages up to date. It didn't
> change the behavior at all...
> 
> I thought I could reinstall the system completely, but Fedora 12
> install DVD also stops responding shortly after the "Check
> installation media" step - before actually starting the installation.
> 
> At the same time, Fedora 12 Live CD boots up fine (in Gnome) but stops
> responding after a few minutes.

Any idea why?

> I thought this could be a hardware issue. I checked the RAM with
> memtest (well, 2 passes went without errors, then I interrupted it).
> Then I installed Windows XP - to test if it will fail. XP worked good,
> I installed all the drivers and noticed no stability problems at all.

Running memtest overnight or for 24 hours would be a better test.  Once
before I didn;t see an error until the 5th iteration before it triggered
an error....  Whether it was thermal, or bit pattern related, I never
did figure out, I just replaced the bad RAM.

> So this looks more like a software incompatibility to me, rather than
> a hardware issue (still, I'm not 100% sure)...
> 
> Unfortunately my knowledge of Linux isn't any good to be able to
> track the problem. Could you please help me to investigate it further?
> I can run any tests / provide logs, dumps, etc. Just need to know
> where to go and how to look for a solution...
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Here are some details for now:
> 
> # uname -a
> Linux frontend1 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Fri Feb 19 19:26:06 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> 
> End of dmesg when the system stopped responding (while booting
> directly to runlevel 5):
> 
> ALSA sound/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c:1197: realtek: Enabling init ASM_ID=0xf603 CODEC_ID=10ec0885
> input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input5
> EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal
> kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
> EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> Adding 2031608k swap on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol01.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2031608k
> 
> 
> respective end of /var/log/messages for ~the same period of time:
> 
> 2010-03-01T22:12:25.546565+03:00 frontend1 avahi-daemon[1443]: Registering HINFO record with values 'I686'/'LINUX'.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.448523+03:00 frontend1 avahi-daemon[1443]: Server startup complete. Host name is frontend1.local. Local service cookie is 565159940.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.977899+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: smartd 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i386-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build)#012Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net#012
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.977988+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Opened configuration file /etc/smartd.conf
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.989087+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Configuration file /etc/smartd.conf parsed.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.989152+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Device: /dev/sda, opened
> 2010-03-01T22:12:26.998766+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Device: /dev/sda, found in smartd database.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:27.279045+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Device: /dev/sda, is SMART capable. Adding to "monitor" list.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:27.279187+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1578]: Monitoring 1 ATA and 0 SCSI devices
> 2010-03-01T22:12:27.350154+03:00 frontend1 avahi-daemon[1443]: Service "frontend1" (/services/ssh.service) successfully established.
> 2010-03-01T22:12:27.455723+03:00 frontend1 smartd[1602]: smartd has fork()ed into background mode. New PID=1602.
> 
> 
> ... and the Xorg.log file:
> 
> # cat Xorg.0.log
> 
> X.Org X Server 1.7.5
> Release Date: 2010-02-16
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: x86-04 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 
> Current Operating System: Linux frontend1 2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Fri Feb 19 19:26:06 UTC 2010 i686
> Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 KEYTABLE=us selinux=0
> Build Date: 16 February 2010  04:33:31AM
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.5-1.fc12 
> Current version of pixman: 0.16.6
> Before reporting problems, check http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
> to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Mar  1 22:12:28 2010
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
> (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
> (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
> (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
> (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using the first device section listed.
> (**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
> (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
> Using a default monitor configuration.
> (**) Option "AIGLX" "on"
> (==) Automatically adding devices
> (==) Automatically enabling devices
> (==) FontPath set to:
> catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
> built-ins
> (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
> (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
> (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
> (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
> If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AutoAddDevices.
> (II) Loader magic: 0x821c900
> (II) Module ABI versions:
> X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
> X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
> X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
> X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
> (++) using VT number 1
> 
> (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0402:1043:8243 nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd000000/16777216, 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xfa000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x0000cc00/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
> (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
> (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
> Module class: X.Org Server Extension
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
> (II) Loading extension SELinux
> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
> (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
> (II) Loading extension DPMS
> (II) Loading extension XVideo
> (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
> (II) Loading extension X-Resource
> (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
> (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
> Module class: X.Org Server Extension
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
> (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
> (II) LoadModule: "glx"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so
> (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
> compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> Module class: X.Org Server Extension
> (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  190.53  Tue Dec  8 20:47:42 PST 2009
> (II) Loading extension GLX
> (II) LoadModule: "record"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
> (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.13.0
> Module class: X.Org Server Extension
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
> (II) Loading extension RECORD
> (II) LoadModule: "dri"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
> (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
> (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
> (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.1.0
> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
> (II) Loading extension DRI2
> (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
> (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
> compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
> Module class: X.Org Video Driver
> (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  190.53  Tue Dec  8 19:16:02 PST 2009
> (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI [email protected]:00:0
> (II) Loading sub module "fb"
> (II) LoadModule: "fb"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
> (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
> (II) Loading sub module "wfb"
> (II) LoadModule: "wfb"
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
> (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> compiled for 1.7.5, module version = 1.0.0
> ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
> (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
> (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
> (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
> "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
> (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> (**) Mar 01 22:12:29 NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
> (II) Mar 01 22:12:29 NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
> (II) Mar 01 22:12:29 NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
> (II) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8600 GT (G84) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 60.84.41.00.00
> (II) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 8600 GT at PCI:1:0:0:
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0):     FUS P19-1S (DFP-1)
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): FUS P19-1S (DFP-1): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
> (--) Mar 01 22:12:36 NVIDIA(0): FUS P19-1S (DFP-1): Internal Dual Link TMDS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What else should I check???

I like to debug my X configuration using the "startx" command.  That way
I can (usually) abort the server with Ctrl-Alt-Bckspc when necessary.  X
can be a pain when it hangs the machine making it impossible to switch
to another VC.  If you can't login remotely, odds are the whole kernel
has hung (which is bad for you with the nvidia driver in use as it
taints the kernel, and noone here will help you debug it unless you can
reproduce it using either the nv or nouveau drivers).

It might be good to see of using nouveau or nv helps you get *some*
graphics up, even if it doesn't help your MythTV system.

Solve one problem at a time....

Have you tried underclocking your system (if you can)?  That might show
some thermal problems....

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