--- Craig White <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 15:26 -0800, Antonio Olivares > wrote: > > --- Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Karl Larsen wrote: > > > > > > >>> 2. Next the small wimpy java 1.51 which is > of no > > > use to a serious > > > >>> java user should not be made available to > the > > > user.Instead there > > > >>> should be dummy /usr/java/default/bin/java > file > > > which will print out > > > >>> "Java not installed" if you press java in a > > > Terminal. There needs to > > > >>> be a link between /etc/alternatives/java to > > > /usr/java/default/bin/java. > > > >> > > > >> Most "Serious java users" ie corporations are > > > using either 1.4 (as we > > > >> are at work) or 1.5, so stop speaking of > > > something you know nothing > > > >> about. Hardly anyone is using 1.6 > commercially > > > yet. And they're the > > > >> people who are "serious users", not people > trying > > > to run applets in > > > >> their browsers... > > > >> > > > > Why lie about what I KNOW? I tried to > install > > > jedit with the 1.5 on > > > > F8 and it just spit out error messages. Then I > bit > > > the bullet and > > > > installed what Sun Inc said is right and jedit > > > works SUPER. > > > > > > > > That is fact not you GUESS. > > > > > > You are comparing 1.5 apples to 1.6 oranges. > The > > > 1.5 you tried was not > > > Sun java, and jedit probably works just fine > with > > > Sun Java 1.5 as well > > > as the 1.6 you installed. > > > > > Know Les, 1.5 apples (one and a half apples) > > 1.6 oranges (one and six tenths of oranges) > > What do apples and oranges have to do with java? > > > > Jun from Sun cannot even be compatible with > itself. > > See article below. Fedora is working with Sun on > > these and other issues. Please be patient :). > ---- > the 1.5 that Karl (and thus Les by extension) was > the gcj version that > is bundled by Fedora and it's cloudy if not > completely disconnected from > the Sun 1.5.x releases and obviously the Sun 1.6 > releases. That's what > Les meant by Apples and Oranges (GCJ Java and Sun > Java) > > The fact remains that Karl is one confused puppy and > Les stretches to > make a point that Karl's confusion represents the > greater confusion as a > whole which is absurd because Karl represents > wrongfulness and confusion > across the board, not just wrt java > > I am quite certain that 5 days ago, I suggested that > Les be patient but > that hasn't stopped him from trying to score > ethereal points, and most > ashamedly, using Karl as proof of how problematic > the situation is. > > Craig > > -- Craig, I am following some links on the java thread(s) and Nigel's Jigsaw page does not work, there official sun's java is needed :( However, using sun's TestJava VM, I get to see the following: Test JavaVM http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml You are using a version of the JRE that is not designed for general consumer use. You may want to update your JRE. Your Java configuration is: Vendor: Sun Microsystems InC. Version: 1.7.0 Operating System: Linux Applet works with IcedTea :) Euclid's Elements Geometry Applet: http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/usingApplet.html Applet works with IcedTea :) David Eck's xFunctions Applet: http://math.hws.edu/xFunctions/ I am sure I can find others, but two out of three is better than nothing :). Before, if one wanted JRE/JDK we had to get java directly from Sun or Jpackage. Now, it is a matter of time and it will get there :) Regards, Antonio ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
