Re: [Gimp-print-devel] I have an update problem.

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On Saturday 30 June 2007, Robert L Krawitz wrote:
>   Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:12:35 -0400
>   From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>   Greetings all;
>
>   Precisely, I would like to update to the next gimp, which is now
>   available for fedora Core 6.
>
>   Unforch, it seems to have hard coded dependencies on
>   gimp-print-4.2.7 and friends.  So smart won't update gimp without
>   installing gimp-print.  But AFAIK, none of the fixes we put in the
>   epson drivers, such as borderless printing, have been backported to
>   4.2.7 that I'm aware of.
>
>   I've been running gutenprint-5.1.0-20070207, installed by
>   checkinstall since back in February, and I have no intention of
>   giving the quality and utility of that up without a lot of kicking
>   and screaming.
>
>   So, what do I do?  Go ahead and let the package manager install the
>   old stuff, and then re-install my gutenprint build with a --nodeps
>   --force?
>
>You should be able to have both versions of Gutenprint installed
>concurrently.  Whether the RPM's are built that way is another matter.

That's my point in the fedora list which I've added to the To: list

But, we're talking about gimp-print-4.2.7-23 over-writing my gutenprint-5.10-6 
install with what is to me, broken code for my epson printer(s)

It sounds as if you telling me that gimp-print-4.2.7-23 and gutenprint-5.10 
can co-exist without cross-talk?

>Personally, I'd build the new version of GIMP from source, and then
>not have to worry about the whole mess.

I did that with virtually the whole print thing including a whole new kde by 
way of konstruct back on FC2, when fedora ignored the screams from the I 
can't print crowd because they were all kde users & the official line is we 
support gnome.  Just hovering the mouse over a print related item in the kde 
menu killed half the desktop & required an x restart as the minimum fix.  
That looked like a kde problem so I built it from scratch.  Nope.  The real 
fix turned out to be a homebuilt cups of a more recent vintage, something 
that fedora never _fixed_ to my knowledge, but all that lead to so much 
dependency hell that the system became un-maintainable even though it 
actually worked great.

>But that's just me.  Or 
>install the newer version of GIMP with --nodeps --force.

And then I'm still doing like now, the rest of the system upgrades one or 2 
packages at a time because if I click on the update all button, it will fsck 
up my printing again.  And that _ain't_ _gonna_ _happen_ until someone from 
fedora tells me that ALL the stuff in gutenprint-5.10 has been back-ported to 
gimp-print.  And that it ALL just works.  The fedora track record in that 
dept. concerning printing is spotty at best.  Printing in general seems to be 
something that sits on the back burner, with a _very_ limited gas supply (eg 
priority) at fedora.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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