On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:53 -0500, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On 2/16/07, Scott van Looy <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Today Dotan Cohen did spake thusly: > > > Also, hardware support for ogg is almost non-existant. > > WAS non existant. I've had a Rio Karma for years that plays oggs tho > > I was hopeful that ogg was gaining acceptance too but that hope was > squashed this past Christmas which shopping for a digital music > player. > > It appears that Microsoft's new "Plays for Sure" is making sure that > player no longer support oggs and no longer are accessible via USB > Mass Storage but rather the more awkward MTP. I had a heck of a time > trying to find a product in one of the main electronics stores that > had ogg support and acted like a UMS drive. > > In the end, after a fair amount of research and hunting around, I > found one of the last iRiver T30s available. Unfortunately, the > firmware installer that was supposed to revert the T30 back to a UMS > device so that it could used on an OS other than XP, needed XP to run. > When I found an XP box to run it on, it wouldn't work. I had to return > it and buy a non-ogg Creative that acted like a UMS drive. > > So the moral of the story is, while ogg compatibility *was* gaining > more acceptance in the hardware player world, they are no longer due > to "Plays for Sure". It makes me sad. I suppose some players are still > available by ordering online ... but good luck finding one in the > local electronics store. > > Ref: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PlaysForSure > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol > > /Mike > Just be patient, with the new switches in the windows stuff, plays for sure will eventually be plays not at all. Regards, Les H
