Re: How NSA access was built into Windows

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On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 12:57 -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 12:44 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 January 2007 10:13, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > >On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 01:55 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> I believe you will have to build a generic kernel.org kernel,
> > >> configured without that support, something I have underway right now,
> > >> using 2.6.20-rc4.  I was amazed at the number of options I found
> > >> turned on that a proper 'make oldconfig' should absolutely never have
> > >> turned on.  My scripts take care of everything but grub.conf for a
> > >> kernel install, so when its done all I should have to do is reboot
> > >> since I'm already running 2.6.20-rc4.  Several things I found may even
> > >> account for the apparent slowness of later kernels.  Things like 15
> > >> seconds to launch firefox on an xp-2800 athlon with a gig of ram?
> > >
> > >When you get that kernel up and running, see if you can then do without
> > >libselinux installed.
> 
> Not a good idea without rebuilding your userland without selinux
> support.  Even /sbin/init links against it (to load policy) and will die
> without it.

Right, which was basically Todd Zullinger's point earlier on, when he
suggested that the integration is so deep that you are really
considering a distro change.  I can certainly confirm what you are
saying by hard experience.

Not that I'm considering a switch; I'm just interested in learning more
about Selinux at this point.  It's also interesting to see contributors
like you and other user's points of view on this topic.

> Stephen Smalley
> National Security Agency


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