Re: Nvidia sucks, sucks, sucks !

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On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:40 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote:
> > Yesterday I absentmindedly ran "yum update".  Stupid me, I didn't
> watch
> > it and apparently a new kernel got installed (2835).
> 
> Why is this NVIDIA's fault?
> 
I was being facetious.  On computers with other video cards, updating to
a new kernel is a trivial exercise ! 

> Take it up with the kernel developers. They're the ones who changed
> config.h
> to autoconf.h. 

Damn them, what were they thinking ?  Did this change occur with the
very last kernel that fc6 released with or was it MAYBE present in a few
kernels before that ?  Of course nvidia was totally on top of the
situation, checking that their driver built with all the kernels
released for fc6-test3, right ? WRONG !

> One might fault RH or FC for schlepping around config.h
> for so long after it went away in the kernel sources. Doubtless, you
> would have bitched about that, too, and tried to blame *that* on
> NVIDIA
> as well.
> 
Well, when you are the SOLE supplier of the driver for a piece of
hardware, I guess that people come to rely on you !


> > So, then I decide that I am being silly trying to build the driver
> in
> > the first place as I've heard great things about livna and they have
> a
> > driver prebuilt.   So I do a "yum install nvidia" and "yum install
> > module-nvidia" of course if fails.  I've got the wrong package name.
> So
> > I shut down Linux and boot XP and go searching on the web to find
> that
> > the package name is "kmod-nvidia".  BTW: I consider it a complete
> > failure that I have to boot Windows to get my Linux box running !
> 
> Then the failure is yours because you don't know how to find
> information
> without using a GUI. How is this NVIDIA's problem? They don't package
> the Livna drivers.

I also googled around to see if other people were building drivers for
2835 and if so, what success they were having.  Can you imagine if we
had to do this for every piece of hardware on our PCs ?

> > BTW: google doesn't work with lynx, nor does surfing some helpful
> > websites.
> And why is this NIVIDIA's fault?

Because with ANY other driver, I wouldn't have been working from a
command line !  My server has an ATI card in it.   I've never spent one
second of time thinking about it.   It has never forced me to work from
the command line !  

-- 
Kim Lux,  Diesel Research Inc.



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