Re: Are RWs a problem?

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On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 17:44 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 16:58 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> > 
> >>Anne Wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tuesday 04 April 2006 18:54, Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Error trying to open /dev/hdd exclusively ... retrying in 1 second.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>There may be other problems, but this one suggests that something, probably 
> >>>automount, is grabbing the device.  Make sure you have closed any file 
> >>>manager windows, and if a device icon has come onto the desktop, use it to 
> >>>umount the device.
> >>
> >>Erm, not on my machine. I have to use umount from a CLI. Using
> >>the desktop icon results in the disc being ejected.
> > 
> > ----
> > which would probably work because a program such as K3b would call for
> > it to be inserted and not mount such a disk but rather perform whatever
> > is needed to erase and start writing.
> 
> Now who's speaking out of ignorance? :-)
----
clearly I am since I haven't used FC-2 in quite a while and have never
purchased an 'R/W' disc and have never used one. I did qualify my
comment as 'probably' because I don't have first hand knowledge so yes,
I am speaking out of ignorance. ;-)
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> 
> No, because when K3b calls for the door to close, the automounter
> finds it and mounts it. And if it's blank, using this technique
> causes the "CD Maker" to start up, preventing K3b from working right.
> 
> The only thing that works on my machine is
> 
> (1) Insert the disc
> (2) If it was blank, wait for the CD Maker to start, then kill it
> (3) If it was not blank, wait for it to mount, start a CLI, and umount it
> (4) Start or continue with K3b.
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but to be accurate...this is on FC-2 and things have changed a bit since
then.
----
> 
> I never have approved of auto mouting like this. IMO, MicroSoft products
> handle removable media better than UNIX like OSs, especially floppies.
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I'm not sure what you mean - Windows will automount a CD, Linux will
automount a CD. I know that EZ-CD Creator will prevent automounting a CD
that is inserted if EZ-CD is foreground application - but I do recall
CD's automounting when inserted even when K3b is foreground application.
So perhaps, this still might not be a suitable method.

As for floppies...I dunno - Windows is pretty non-responsive to other
stuff when formatting/writing to a floppy, whereas Linux just buffers
it...but that does mean that to flush the buffers, it is necessary to
unmount it first. It would seem that both approaches have their
benefits/drawbacks.

Craig


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