Craig White wrote: > >On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 10:12 -0600, akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> > At least the feature is realized now or ready for FC5. I >use the right >> > click a lot to find features hidden on other operating >systems. I guess >> > right clicking for Linux is becoming similar to find >useful options. >> > >> > Yes, contacting the developer through bugzilla is more >productive than >> > overpopulating the list with point-counterpoint battles. >> > >> > I used battle on public lists over MS vs. Linux and >battles were similar >> > on outcome. I probably converted 2 over to my view while >having another >> > thousand holding onto what they were accustomed to. >> > >> > Unless we were to redesign the installer ourselves, >battling on the list >> > would only add more clicks to the reading of other Fedora >issues on >> > the list. The installer would still not handle easier >installation or a >> > more complete installation of what is available from the >install media. >> > >> > This feature should positively stand out in the "highly >read" release >> > notes. would flashing text be too much? >> > >> > Jim >> I don't what you definition of productive is but this bugzilla was >> not very productive in my view. Just to say that is the way it is >> and install everything will never come back is not very responsive. >> >--- >the response also pointed out that you could right click on the group >and 'select all' or 'select none' for the group. All right, so it takes >8 clicks instead of 1 click to 'install everything' now...not a big >deal. > >What you don't get from the bugzilla entry but can get from parsing the >developers list is that they are trying to shed packages from Fedora >Core and push them out to 'Extras' and make 'core' truly just the core >and 'install everything' is less valuable as they succeed in >doing that. >What you don't get if you don't read the developers list is >what is that >they don't even agree on what is meant by 'install everything' - where >some might interpret it to mean every package, others thought it >shouldn't include every language pack under the sun for every package >and as you consider the impact of this, you begin to get the >point...'install everything' was never really clear about it's purpose >at the outset. > >Craig > Clearly it IS a big deal. 8 clicks is 8 clicks and not 1 click! You're right - I am too darn lazy but 8 clicks adds to my already agravating carpal tunnel wrist. But seriously, anything to make it easier for the installer is what I am advocating. Anything less than that is a very unprofessional descision and it just makes for an unsavory installation experience. I added my comments to the BUGZILLA for suggestions that should be reviewed. I don't like buzilla but I am willing to get these installer issues resolved for the benefit of fedora's community. Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006
