Actually, I normally don't have problems with XP or Linux, especially at home where I run everything. Once in a while XP will do "something weird," but generally not. Linux (Fedora) seems to be a bit more stable in my limited experience. I do use Fedora as an SFTP and web server and it has been working fine for about 9 months; I have done all the patches and upgrades from FC1 to 3 with no significant problems. I will say that using Fedora as a desktop will currently not be acceptable for most users because it does not recognize hardware and software associations a smoothly as XP, and there are insufficient applications from a user standpoint. However, if one purchased a Linux desktop it would probably be just as good as XP in these areas because it will have been tweaked for such usage. In the past when I have complained in this forum about Fedora, which is not much complaining, I have received the its not for production use;...its for early adopters I guess. I generally think that is not a good answer but it's the one I have received. Technical support from the forum has been outstanding. If I want a server, I choose Linux over Microsoft if it does what I want. For a desktop, I like the idea of Linux, but I choose XP.... So far... -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tor Harald Thorland Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:16 PM To: For users of Fedora Core releases Subject: Re: Subject:[****] Re: Linux sucks? Eric Vought wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2005, at 5:17 PM, fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> From: Manu Schnetzler <marsu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Date: February 14, 2005 5:17:25 PM CST >> To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Linux sucks? >> Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> I know I might be setting myself up to be thoroughly flamed, but I >> thought I'd share my experience anyway and request some advice. >> >> I am using Windows and there is no way I can avoid it, because most >> of the applications I run in my field do not run on Linux. But some >> do, and I thought setting up a dual boot machine would be nice, and >> quite frankly I've always liked Unix and don't like Microsoft much (I >> tend to like the David side of things in general), so anything I >> could do another way would be great. By the way, I am not a beginner >> when it comes to Unix/shells and such. In fact, I have cygwin on >> Windows because I like the tools. >> >> So there we go: FC3 installed fairly easily. Now how do I set up my >> dual head on here? Well that didn't go too well. There's a bug in >> FC3, so I had to apply a patch. It went a bit further but it still >> doesn't work: can't get the second monitor to be recognized. After >> letting system-config-display rewrite my xorg.conf, it is not booting >> anymore, so I have to get back in non-graphical mode and reset the >> old xorg.conf. At this point, I have spent probably 6 hours setting >> up my machine and looking for info on the web. >> >> Next thing, GRUB hangs and it takes me a few more hours of trying >> several things, and I end up having to re-install FC3. I haven't >> booted Linux since then... >> >> I know I won't make any friends here, but here's my conclusion. Linux >> is not ready. For someone like me who doesn't have days to waste on >> configuration and trying to solve issues, we'll have to stick with >> Windows. And I know I will get the usual "but Windows crashes all the >> time" and such. Well XP has been good to me so far - I can't remember >> a major crash, so that argument doesn't stand anymore. Maybe back in >> the days of NT, but not today. >> >> I'd love Linux to work, I really do. I'd love to ditch Windows and >> put a Tux sticker on my PC, but I can't depend on it for my work, so >> I won't. I hope I won't simply get flames telling me that I'm too >> stupid to get past the problems I face. It would be more interesting >> to receive some advice: should I try Red Hat and pay for support? >> Wait another 5 years? Should I spend another 10 hours trying to get >> FC3 to work for me? Is it worth my time, or will I face some other >> problem once/if I get my dual head to work? > > > Instead, XP users hit this when they add hardware and the 'automatic > detection' goes to work. Good examples are the 3Com cards that have > you put a CD in *before* installing the hardware so that the hardware > detection can be tweaked or disabled. This wreaks havoc on a reinstall > because you end up physically pulling hardware out of the box and > trying to put it back in the right order in order to avoid the plug > and play from killing the install. On Linux, the cards just work. > > > > A little funny issue from me too,,, Did a webupdate from microsoft on a computer running XP Home yesterday, and it did a "upgrade" on a mouse driver (from the microsoft site) The update needed a restart, and when I pressed the OK button the PC went to the "blue screen". When I rebooted it, it went fine until the XP logo showed up, then the computer restarted by it self. And restarted and restarted. I tryed the "last working setup" from the "rescue screen".... And it didn't work either In the end I had to reinstall!! 2 days ago, did a fedora core 3 install, perfect except for one little option for my Radeon card. THT -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
