On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:10:51 -0800, Tim Alberts <talberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [snip]
I try to stick with up2date because I want the nice GUI tools, something Linux is trying (or should be trying) to brag about. However, I get up2date to completely download and install updates maybe one out of a dozen times (broad band connection).
I've been on this list before and noted that most of the 'experts' always answer questions about updates with 'just use yum'...Note, this is my impression, I may be wrong. Also note I define 'experts' as the folks on this list whom always seem to have an answer for every question.
If yum is so much better that the experts just go to it, why is up2date the program on the start bar? Why isn't yum given the nice icon on the start bar by default?
Lots of other good answers to this already; but here's one that I haven't seen. Updating is something you should never have to worry about yourself, so a GUI shouldn't be necessary. Clearly you may want it for special installs, but for literal updates, why be bothered at all?
Indeed, once yum is set up correctly (which is quick and easy), it's very automatic. In fact, in a default FC install, cron will be set up automatically to run yum updates nightly, and anacron will take over on computers that aren't powered on all the time. So the GUI is just not something I ever have to worry about in this case (although in general I am a GUI kind of guy).
On my desktop at work all I did for automatic yum updates, post-install, was follow the instructions at
http://www.fedorafaq.org/#installsoftware
and I was done with updating by hand, forever. At home, I made one other change, since that computer is only on for about an hour a day, and that was to edit /etc/anacrontab to cut the delays to 5, 15, and 25 minutes from 65 and up.
I do not consider myself an expert, but with yum I can play one on TV!
--Matt
One nice thing about a GUI for Yum is if you are searching for or looking for some applications or games for that matter.
Using yumi I have been able to do a search for games and then from the search result, select which games I want to install. It provides more tools than just update. I have actually removed up2date from my systems as it is more of a pain now. One package corrupted the python script. I am not sure what did it.
-- Robin Laing
