Re: yum-applet-gui non-functional

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Hi Kevin,

On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 06:15, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Paul Howarth wrote:
> > Being a long-time user of autorpm (http://www.autorpm.org/), I thought 
> > I'd give the "official" update methods a try. So I installed yum, which 
> > seems to work OK, and also yum-applet, which is based on rhn-applet. 
> > However, the applet always shows the "checking for updates" icon and if 
> > I left-click on the applet, no window appears but a process 
> > "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yum-applet-gui" is started, and never exits. I 
> > see the same thing on two different machines, and the same thing with 
> > the original rhn-applet. Any thoughts on why this might be happening?
> > 
> Paul,
> 	I had the same problem with the rhn-applet after my "by hand" upgrade 
> of RedHat 7.3 to 9.0.  And it remained that way for me when I then 
> upgraded to FC2.
> 	What turned out to be my problem was that somewhere along the line 
> (since rhn-applet was working correctly for me under RH7.3) I lost my 
> "notification area" in my gnome panel.  (Or maybe it became necessary to 
> have one sometime after RH7.3.)  After I put a "notification area" in my 
> gnome panel, and then re-installed the rhn-applet into it, it works fine 
> again.  The one major difference I notice is the size of the icon used 
> in the notification area is much smaller than the one that was in the 
> gnome panel for RH7.3.  This is probably the dead give away that 
> something changed (but, if you don't know that, its not very intuitive 
> to figure it out!).

Thanks; that was exactly the problem. I found the answer myself actually
by trawling through bugzilla and the list archives, finding:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-June/msg05298.html
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88356

The key point really is that yum-applet and rhn-applet are not actually
"applets" in the Gnome sense because they need to work under KDE too. So
the way they're coded requires their icon to appear in the
notification/status area rather than anywhere in the panel. So if there
is no notification/status area, they just don't work. It would be nice
if they could detect when they'd been installed like an ordinary applet
though so that they could inform the user making the mistake, rather
than just sitting there looking like they're trying to check for updates
and not getting anywhere.

Paul.
-- 
Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



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