Re: [FC2] Character set problem, still there :(

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Coume - Lubox.com wrote:

- I created files under Win 95,98,ME and XP, which include french
characters in their names such as é,è,à, etc...
- When I was using MDK or Knoppix I was able to see them correctly as
they were still on a Win partition of my HDD.
- For the last 14-15 months, I deleted all the Windows partitions I was
having to use ONLY linux and I consequently copied all those files from
a Windows partition to a linux one ext3.

Now when I try to see a file which has french characters , the displayed
name is: (for instance) Mon beau p?re et moi.avi (invalid Unicode)
When it should be
Mon beau pére et moi.avi

The file names are encoded in one of the 8-bit encodings, probably Latin 1 (ISO 8859-1) or Latin 9 (ISO 8859-15), but Fedora assumes that they are in UTF-8. You can change Fedora's system-wide character encoding in /etc/sysconfig/i18n. I hear Latin 9 is best for French.


Then I had a mad idea, rename all those problematic files to get them
working... Sounds great, doesn't it?

File names can be converted. The content of the files is worse, because plain text files must be converted while many other file formats must not be touched, and some files like XML need to be converted if you want them to be readable in text editors, but may or may not be in a different encoding and may or may not contain encoding information that has to be updated if they are converted.


erm.... No! Because if I try to
upload those files on my portable MP3 player an iRiver, I got characters
problem...

Does Linux view the iRiver as a hard disk, a file server or something else? If it's viewed as a disk, I bet it's mounted as VFAT. Long file names in VFAT are in a 16-bit encoding (UTF-16 or UCS-2), and the driver converts them. It seems that for some reason you have to give parameters to mount to tell it which encoding to translate to. You'd think it could have used the system-wide encoding automatically ...


If it's viewed as a file server it's most certainly an SMB server. Again, it looks like you have to give parameters to smbmount.

If it talks some other protocol you have to find out if the driver can do character encoding conversion. If not, you could always work around it by making Fedora use the same character encoding as the iRiver uses.

Björn Persson



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