Re: LVM-Howto [Was : what are the restrictions onbootablepartitions?]

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ow.mun.heng@xxxxxxx wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: neil [mailto:neilcuk@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:26 PM
To: For users of Fedora Core releases
Subject: Re: LVM-Howto [Was : what are the restrictions
onbootablepartitions?]




ow.mun.heng@xxxxxxx wrote:







-----Original Message-----
From: neil [mailto:neilcuk@xxxxxxx]


mr700@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:





On Friday 30 April 2004 05:11, Ow Mun Heng wrote:






-----Original Message-----
From: neil [mailto:neilcuk@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:35 PM
To: For users of Fedora Core releases
Subject: Re: what are the restrictions on bootable partitions?




rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:







what are the restrictions on where i can install another





linux distro






onto my fedora core (actually, FC2-t3) system so that grub





can find it?






(even though this is a test version of fedora, this



question actually




refers to FC distros in general.)








There are no restrictions other than the boot loader (grub) must be able to read the boot partition.







typically, for historical reasons, even when i use LVM, i





create a small






primary, ext3 filesystem for /boot, and use LVM for the rest





of the drive.






is there any compelling reason for doing this anymore?



what's the



recommended strategy for LVM? and need for a non-LVM





filesystem on newer






machines?







It really depends on what the system will be used for.



Check out the



howto here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html






I've actually looked through the howto but am still unable



to determine




how to actually create a lvm system. I've recompiled my kernel to have the devive mapper as a module and modprobe'ed it.

When I try to do vgscan it states that the kernel modules



are not loaded.










I don't remember how I did this with RH9 to make it



work, but I remember




I played a bit whth modprobe, the LVM tools and the man pages :)






Please help.






http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/s




ysadmin-guide/ch-lvm.html




http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-3-Manual/s




ysadmin-guide/ch-lvm-intro.html




http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custo




m-guide/ch-lvm.html




http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custo




m-guide/ch-lvm-intro.html




http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-




guide/ch-lvm-intro.html




...
I did install FC1 with Software Raid 5 and LVM on top of




it, but doing so on less




than three physical disks results to up to 5 times slower



transfer (because of the




raid). If you have 3 disks read speed increases and the



write speed is almost the




same. Using ReiserFS I was able to resize 61G LV to 64G LV



without errors. With




ext3 it worked, but fsck.ext3 had a lot of work to do (the



partition was ~50G full).




I hope one day online resize will work with bouth and



reiserfs will get more stable




with acl and SELinux support.
http://www.aplawrence.com/Linux/lvm.html
ps: putting the /boot partiton ouside the LVM worked


fine for me.







okay - there are a few steps one needs to take to get their system using LVM. It can be tricky to get your brain around at first but it will slot into place. The steps are quite straight forward - even when setting up post install. Here's a brief overview. I'm assuming you can follow the man pages of each of the commands specified - there are a number of options which will be up to you:

as root
One(a): Make sure you have backed up any important data before trashing your system ;-)
One: make sure your kernel supports LVM (By default this is supported in FC1)
Two: create some LVM partitions (of type 8e under fdisk)
Three: reboot or execute partprobe
Four: execute vgscan
Five: use pvcreate to assign your newly typed disks as use within the LVM
(actually, four and five might be back to front)
Six: use vgcreate to generate a new volume group (and add some physical volumes tro it)
Seven: use lvcreate to make your logical volume
Eight: format your new logical volume


then it's up to you - mount as you like

use e2fsadm to extend and reduce the size of the volume

There is a huge amount of documentation and you should

really get to

grips with resizing, adding new PVs etc. Before you start putting useful data on your new LV!




Thanks for the info Neil. I think I do have a hang of it..

sort of anyway.


So, what you're saying is that I have to create the LVM

partition using


fdisk 1st before I can get to execute vgscan??

Currently I just type vgscan and then it complains
vgscan -- LVM driver/module not loaded??

(it's loaded. The module is named dm-mod.ko right??)








you've got me there. It should be 'lvm-mod' that gets loaded. try a manual 'modprobe lvm-mod'. If that works try running 'depmod' to setup the module dependancies again. Sounds like something is missing the mark. Create one or two partitions using fdisk and try vgscan again.



did I mention i was using 2.6 kernel?? The 2.6 kernel compiled it as dm-mod

Oh well.. I'll try again..




ahh - just read through the thread again :-) sorry - I have no experience with the test release as of yet - i've been using wget to fetch the dvd.iso but there's a two gig limit bug which caught me out a few times. I'm still dling FCt3 -- maybe once I have it running I han help further. Let me know how you get on in the meantime.

neil
P.S. It's Friday at least :-D



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