Re: RH rips again Was: extend EOL for Red Hat Linux 9?

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William Hooper wrote:

Guy Fraser said:



If I remember correctly, and I may be mistaken, RHN for RHL does NOT
include access to RHEL errata.



You are mistaken: https://rhn.redhat.com/help/rhlmigrationfaq/ "2) What happens to my paid RHN subscription if it expires after April 30, 2004, (the end-of-life date for Red Hat Linux 9)?

Customers whose paid RHN subscription expires after April 30 received a
complimentary evaluation ISO and channel access for Red Hat Enterprise
Linux ES and WS for the remainder of their subscription."

Big woop, stuff I don't need.




RHN for RHEL, again if I remember correctly
is more expensive than it was for RHL.



For some values of RHEL this is correct.



I understand that since you work for RH you are baised, but yes I got
patial value for what I paid.



Love this one, "if you don't agree you must be getting paid by Red Hat so
you are biased"...


I was not replying to you.



Had I been notified that my subscription was
expiring and given the option to renew, I would have then been able
to make a judgement call.



You agreed to be automatically build for the service unless you canceled. You had every opportunity to cancel and Red Hat provided the date for RHL
9's EOL before it was released.


I did not know I was going to billed automaticaly, I don't think I was billed automaticaly the year before.




Since I was not given that option, and was
informed that I would not get a refund if I decided not to use RHN I am
justified in feeling ripped off. I was billed for a year of updates for a
product that would not be available for the full year.



You got exactly what you signed up for. Now if you didn't read what you
signed up for that is not Red Hat's problem.


I'm so... sorry, next time I buy somthing from RH, I will be sure to have my lawyer read all the documents on Redhats website to make sure there are no hidden addendums.



If someone gave you a chocolate bar and billed you with out asking, and
you discovered that part of the chocolate bar was missing, would you not
feel ripped off when you discovered you could not get a refund ?



You agreed to pay for the chocolate bar, you received the exact amount of chocolate you were promised and, just because the company wasn't going to make plain chocolate anymore, got a partial chocolate bar with nuts.

If you are the nuts.




Would you care if the part of the chocolate bar that was left was still
good or would you still be left with a bad taste ?



It seems to me your bad taste came from you not researching what you were buying:

a) RH changed the EOL structure and announced it _before RHL 9 was released_

I wasn't aware of that, I was not NOTIFIED until after the subscription was renewed.

b) You agreed to automatically renew the RHN service when it expired.

Not to my knowledge.

c) Red Hat is providing you with the new RHEL product to fulfill your RHN
service at no extra charge.

Great, I get access to updates on a product I don't have.


I'm not sure what else you want them to do.

Tell you not to speak for them.


--
William Hooper





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