On Thursday 14 June 2007 01:49:23 Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2007, Linus Torvalds <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The fact is, Tivo didn't take those rights away from you, yet the FSF
> > says that what Tivo did was "against the spirit". That's *bullshit*.
>
> Oh, good, let's take this one.
>
> if you distribute copies of such a program, [...]
> you must give the recipients all the rights that you have
>
> So, TiVo includes a copy of Linux in its DVR.
>
And they give you the same right that they had, which is obtain free software
that you can modify and redistribute. There's nothing in there that says they
should give you the tools they used after they received the software, which
is what you seem to be looking for.
> TiVo retains the right to modify that copy of Linux as it sees fit.
>
> It doesn't give the recipients the same right.
>
It does, can't you modify their kernel source? Where does it say you should be
able to run you modifications on the same hardware?
> Oops.
>
> Sounds like a violation of the spirit to me.
>
> Sounds like plugging this hole would retain the same spirit.
The only fear that I have with the whole Tivo saga, is that companies like
Dell can use the same thing to say: "Our hardware will only run Company's X
distribution of Linux".
Do we just hope users won't buy those Dell machines, or do you modify your
software license to force Dell to allow custom distributions to run on their
machines? Then where do we draw the line of "Software Licenses".
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