Re: Linux 2.6.21

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, David Miller wrote:


From: "Markus Rechberger" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:58:09 +0200

On 4/29/07, Linus Torvalds <[email protected]> wrote:


On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:

We are already quite good at ignoring bug reports that come through
linux-kernel, and it's an _advantage_ of the kernel Bugzilla to see more
than 1600 open bugs because this tells how bad we are at handling bugs.

No, it just shows that bugzilla doesn't matter for most of the kernel.

Don't say that "bugzilla tells how bad we are at handling bugs". It tells
how bad *bugzilla* is for handling bugs, nothing more.


I totally disagree here, bugzilla is a very good tool.

No, Bugzilla really does suck, and I personally refuse to use it when
I have a choice.  And guess what?  You better be concerned about that
because I maintain all of the networking code :-)

It puts the onus FAR too much on the developer and not enough on the
reporter and other minions.  We have a small resource of developers,
yet lots of users, bug reporters, and minions, so something that
doesn't take advantage of the larger resource we have is going to
not function efficiently at all.  Yet that is what bugzilla does.

I'll say that as a user I hate having to deal with bugzilla.

there's nothing more frustrating then spending a good chunk of time trying to find a similar bug, then jumping through all the bugzilla hoops to file a report to eventually (days/weeks later) get a message 'closed becouse it's a duplicate report), then have to go and track down what it's a duplicate of, read through that bug report, only to find that it's not solved there either, and to top it off, the people working on that bug won't see my report or that I'm available to troubleshoot it.

from a user poit of view, e-mailing the kernel list (retrying a few days later of there is no response) tends to work _much_ better.

David Lang
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