Re: A proposal - binary

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Antonio Vargas wrote:
If the essence of using virtual machines is precisely that the machine
acts just as if it was a real hardware one, then we should not need
any modifications to the kernel. So, it would be much better if the
hypervirsor was completely transparent and just emulated a native cpu
and a common native set of hardware, which would then work 100% with
the native code in the kernel. This keeps the smarts of virtual
machine management on the hypervisor.
You are basically arguing for full virtualization - which is fine.  But 
today as it stands it does not provide the highest level of performance 
that paravirtualization does, and in the future, it does little to 
provide more advanced virtualization features.
For example, TBL and pagetable handling can be done with 2 interfaces,
one standard via intercepting normal cpu instructions, and a batched
one via a hardware driver with a FIFO on shared memory just like many
graphics card do to send commands and data to the GPU. I recall this
design was the one used in the mac-on-linux hypervisor for ppc
architecture. Why not for x86 with vt/pacifica extensions? What about
using the same design than on the Sparc T1 port?
You can't use a driver to do this in Linux today, because there are no 
hooks you can use for pagetable handling.  And you will always achieve 
better performance and simplicity by changing the machine definition to 
avoid the really nasty cases.  Hardware virtualization is simply not 
fast enough today.  But it also doesn't leave room for the future - 
proposals such as the abstract MMU interfaces for Linux which have been 
floating around are extremely attractive from a hypervisor point of view 
- but there can be no progress until there is some kind of consensus on 
what those are, and having an interface in the kernel is a requirement 
for any deeper level of paravirtualization.
Zach

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