On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 01:48:43PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 14:38 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > What was the recommended way for getting userspace header at last
> > year's kernel summit?
>
> It was said that we need _incremental_ changes, and this is an attempt
> to satisfy that request.
>
> > > The important thing is that we all get our editors out and clean up the
> > > _contents_ our own headers, and actually start to _think_ about the
> > > visibility of any new header-file content we introduce. Let's not
> > > concentrate too much on the implementation details of how we actually
> > > get those to userspace.
> >
> > Currently, it's said the kernel headers aren't suitable for userspace.
>
> Indeed they aren't.
>
> > After the cleanups you propose, the kernel headers will be suitable for
> > userspace (the copy steps you propose are not required, distributions
> > could equally start to copy the verbatim headers again).
>
> After the _first_ stage of the cleanups I propose, the export step will
> still be necessary. You'll need to pick those headers which are intended
> to be user-visible, and leave behind those which are not.
>
> If we actually go on to abolish __KERNEL__ and move the public headers
> to a separate directory, you're right -- as I said, one day hopefully
> it'll just be 'cp -a'. But that is not the _first_ stage. We need to do
> this incrementally.
>...
Why can't the splitting happen incrementally?
Assume you have a header include/linux/foo.h:
- Add an #include <kabi/linux/foo.h> at the top.
- Move the part of the contents that is part of the userspace ABI to
include/kabi/linux/foo.h.
When this is done for all headers containing parts of the userspace ABI:
- test the kabi/ headers in userspace
- review all headers under kabi/ since what's there will become a fixed
ABI that can never be changed
- test the kabi/ headers in userspace
- make the ABI headers official
For kernel code, this header splitting should be completely transparent
(and nothing outside include/ should directly include headers under
include/kabi/).
For userspace, this will be one switch from the many different header
packages floating around to the new ABI headers, but it should break
nearly none usespace applications (it will break some abuses, but
that's OK).
> dwmw2
cu
Adrian
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