On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 04:42:29PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> > > Again, in your opinion. To me it is a simple consequence of there not
> > > being a boolean type in the kernel so you cannot use it in the core code.
> > > Once there is such a type I would imagine users will appear in the core
> > > code over time.
> >
> > And that's supposed to be an argument in favour of that crap?
>
> No, it was an alternative interpretation to Christoph's statement that the
> non-use of booleans was due to them being crap. So I said that you can't
> use what you don't have and I imagine the majority of people do not want
> these pointless flamewars so no-one has so far bothered to introduce a
> generic bollean type in the kernel...
>
> Andy why is it crap? For a start it is valid C (well, ok C99, but even
s/Andy/And/...
> you are fond of a lot of C99 features like the initializers) and second
> it makes code more readable and makes meaning of functions a lot more
> obvious, e.g reading:
>
> "extern bool foo_is_compressed(bar);"
>
> in a header file makes it damn obvious that if foo_is_compressed() returns
> "true" then "bar" is compressed and if it returns "false" then "bar" is
> not compressed.
>
> If you see:
>
> "extern int foo_is_compressed(bar);"
>
> You have to go find the .c file containing the function and read it to
> figure out what the heck the return value means/is. And don't tell me you
> can rely on it returning 0 for not-compressed and 1 for compressed. For a
> start it could return < 0 for error and a myriad of other things.
> Especially in the kernel core the functions like that seem to randomly
> return 0 for true and 1 for false and worse. But even if they were
> consistent you could never rule out the < 0 for error case unless you read
> the function itself.
>
> So I beg to differ with your opinion of boolean type being crap.
>
> As you might have noticed already, I think booleans have their place and
> make code much more readable when used appropriately. I have only been
> programming for the last 24 years and I like booleans and no-one is going
> to get me to think otherwise after such a long time...
>
> I am happy to agree that we disagree. Just stay away with s/true/1/
> and s/false/0/ conversions from fs/ntfs/ please and I will shut up... (-:
>
> Best regards,
>
> Anton
>
Best regards,
Anton
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Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK
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